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Fred Jolly: A Quest for Life - Part 2

In part two of our conversation with Fred Jolly, we pick up where his story left off and explore how his faith has continued to evolve over more than four decades.

Fred Jolly: A Quest for Life - Part 1

What makes something alive? And what happens when life ends? These are questions Fred Jolly has wrestled with since childhood, and they've taken him on a remarkable journey.

Thad Blevins: Finding God Again

What happens when tragedy shatters your faith, and the God you once believed in becomes the very One you blame?

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Apple Podcasts is the free app that already comes on iPhone, iPad, and Mac, so it is the simplest choice if those are the devices you use. Following UNDONE adds the show to your library so new episodes arrive automatically. It does not cost anything.
Open UNDONE in Apple Podcasts
What to tap: On the show page, look in the top right corner for a button that says + Follow. On some screens it is labeled Follow or Follow Show. + Follow
On iPhone or iPad
1. Tap Open UNDONE in Apple Podcasts to open the UNDONE show page in Apple Podcasts.
2. On the show page, tap + Follow in the top right corner. If you are asked to sign in, use the Apple ID you already have on your iPhone, iPad, or Mac.
3. You are done. New episodes download to your device, and you can get a notification when a new one is released.
On a Mac
1. Click Open UNDONE in Apple Podcasts to open the UNDONE show page in Apple Podcasts.
2. On the show page, click + Follow in the top right corner. If you are asked to sign in, use the Apple ID you already have on your Mac.
3. Find UNDONE later by clicking Shows in the sidebar.
To find the show later on iPhone or iPad, open Podcasts, tap Library, then tap Shows. To be notified when new episodes are released, tap Home, tap your profile picture, then tap Notifications and turn them on for UNDONE.
Apple uses Follow for free shows. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts is a paid option some other shows offer. You do not need that - or Apple Music, Apple One, or any paid plan - to listen to UNDONE.
Spotify works on iPhone, Android, tablets, and computers. It is often the easiest choice on an Android phone, or if you already have a Spotify account. You can follow UNDONE and stream every episode with a free account.
Open UNDONE in Spotify
What to tap: On the UNDONE show page, look for a Follow button. After you tap it, it will change to Following. Follow
On a phone or tablet
1. Tap Open UNDONE in Spotify to open UNDONE in Spotify. If you do not have the app yet, you will be prompted to get it - it is free.
2. On the show page, tap Follow. That saves UNDONE to Your Library under Podcasts.
3. Tap any episode to play it. New episodes are saved for you automatically after you follow the show.
On a computer
1. Click Open UNDONE in Spotify to open UNDONE in Spotify. Sign in or create a free account if you are asked.
2. Click Follow. UNDONE is saved to Podcasts & Shows in Your Library.
On your phone, tap Home, then Podcasts, then Following to see the latest episodes from shows you follow - including UNDONE.
You do not need Spotify Premium to follow or listen to UNDONE. Premium is a paid music plan. Some shows also sell their own paid subscriptions inside Spotify; UNDONE is not one of them.
YouTube is a strong choice if you want to watch UNDONE, or if YouTube is already the app you open on your phone, tablet, TV, or computer. Subscribing is free and means new episodes show up in your Subscriptions feed. You need a free Google account to subscribe, but you do not need YouTube Premium.
Open UNDONE on YouTube
What to tap: Look for a Subscribe button on the UNDONE channel page, or just under any episode. Subscribe
On a phone or tablet
1. Tap Open UNDONE on YouTube to open the UNDONE channel. Sign in if you are asked. If YouTube asks you to confirm, tap Subscribe.
2. If you landed on the channel without the prompt, tap Subscribe next to the channel name.
3. Optional: tap the bell next to Subscribe and choose All if you want a notification every time a new episode is posted.
On a computer
1. Click Open UNDONE on YouTube to open the UNDONE channel. Sign in if you are asked.
2. Click Subscribe. You can also subscribe from under the player on any episode.
3. New episodes appear in Subscriptions in the left menu.
In the YouTube app, tap Subscriptions at the bottom to see new episodes. On the UNDONE channel, you can also tap the Podcasts tab to browse the show as a podcast.
Subscribe on YouTube is free. YouTube Premium is a paid plan that removes ads. You do not need it to watch or listen to UNDONE.
Amazon Music is the best fit if you listen on an Echo or other Alexa device, or if you already use Amazon Music on your phone or computer. Podcasts are included at no extra cost. A free Amazon account is enough to follow UNDONE. You do not need Prime or Amazon Music Unlimited.
Open UNDONE on Amazon Music
What to tap: On the show page, look for a Follow button. It often appears with a heart icon. Follow
In the Amazon Music app
1. Tap Open UNDONE on Amazon Music to open UNDONE in Amazon Music. Sign in with your Amazon account if you are asked. If you do not have the app, you will be prompted to get it - a free Amazon account is enough.
2. On the show page, tap Follow.
3. Find the show later by tapping Library, then opening your podcast library. Followed shows appear there, along with new episodes.
On a computer
1. Click Open UNDONE on Amazon Music to open UNDONE on Amazon Music. Sign in if you are asked.
2. Click Follow.
On an Echo or Alexa device
1. Say, “Alexa, play the UNDONE podcast.”
2. Alexa plays the show from Amazon Music. Your place in an episode stays in sync if you pick it up later on your phone.
In the app, tap Library and go to your podcasts to see shows you follow and their new episodes.
Amazon’s own help notes that a free Amazon account is all you need to listen to podcasts on Amazon Music. Unlimited and Prime are optional music plans, not a requirement for UNDONE.
Choose this if you already listen in a dedicated podcast app such as Overcast or Pocket Casts. You can add UNDONE with this RSS feed. An RSS feed is simply a link that tells an app where to find new episodes. It is free, and you only add it once.
Open the UNDONE RSS feed
What to tap: In most apps, look for Add URL, Follow a Show by URL, or paste the feed into Search. Add feed
Copy the feed, then add it in your app
1. Copy the UNDONE RSS feed using Copy RSS feed above, or open Open the UNDONE RSS feed.
2. Open your podcast app and follow the steps for that app.
Apple Podcasts
1. On iPhone or iPad: open Podcasts, tap Library, tap the ••• menu, then tap Follow a Show by URL (some versions say Add a Show by URL).
2. Paste the feed and tap Follow.
3. On a Mac: choose File, then Follow a Show by URL, paste the feed, and click Follow.
Overcast
1. Tap the + button, then tap Add URL.
2. Paste the feed and tap Done.
Pocket Casts
1. Open Discover.
2. Paste the RSS feed into the search bar.
3. Open UNDONE in the results, then tap Subscribe.
Once the feed is added, your app will check it for new UNDONE episodes the same way it does for any other show.
Spotify and Amazon Music do not let you add a public RSS feed by hand. Use the Spotify or Amazon Music steps above for those apps.